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Claude Jolicoeur 24 months ago
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This is a very interesting subject - using alternate winter pruning to overcome
alternate bearing. I have been playing this game for some time, but I am not
sure it really works... I must say however that I have been doing the opposite,
i.e. prune hard on the off year. The reasonimg is as follows: let's assume I
prune this winter (2010) a tree that had a large crop in 2009 and for which I
expect a small crop in 2010. Here it goes: winter 2010 - hard prune (off year)
summer 2010 - vigorous growth and small crop summer 2011 - formation of fruit
buds (this is an "on" year, big crop) fall 2012 - increased crop on an "off"
year As you can see, the difference between my assumptions and yours is that I
assume fruit buds are mostly formed on 2 year wood while you assume fruit buds
are mostly formed on 1 year wood... I must say I did have some success with
some trees only. Some others didn't respond at all. Well, we all know that some
varieties are extremely biennal and just about nothing will work. I now also
think that weather the fruit buds will form on 1 or 2 year old wood may depend
in part on the variety - which would explain why my system works better on some
varieties. Unfortunately, there are many other factors that may have an
influence and it is very difficult to be sure of the effects of my
interventions - we are working on living bodies after all! I would be very
interested in having other's opinions on this... Claude
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Michelle and Chris McColl 24 months ago
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Claude, a point of clarification. We are relying on fruit buds to be formed on
wood that is 3 or 4 years old (or older), from buds that were dormant and would
not have pushed out if the tree was not pruned hard. A lot of these buds do not
form an extending shoot - they form a rosette of leaves with a fruit bud for
next spring in the centre. The method does not rely on fruit buds being formed
on one year old wood.
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Michael Phillips 24 months ago
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Hugh William's experience with Baldwin, an apple with strong tendency towards
biennial bearing, and his solution to overcoming that to a degree, is detailed
in the revised edition of Apple Grower (See the "Biennial Resurrection"
sidebar on page 129 for those of you who have the book.) Here the progression
towards more fruit buds in the "off year" is based in part on bending down
vertical shoots in the "on year". Admittedly this is not so much about what the
McColl's are doing to reduce flower buds in the "on year" with aggressive
pruning on vigorous commercial varieties... but it does support their
experience that fruit bud formation for the next season will be encouraged in
the "on year". On the other hand, it also speaks to Claude's notion that
aggressive pruning in the "off year" produces a shoot response that in turn
initates fruit bud formation for the next "off year". So much for helping to
clarify these notions! Signed, the dyslexic pruner
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