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Bruce Carlson 23 months ago
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Regarding pollinators… being in a suburban setting, having a hive set up is not
an option but I do try to have something in bloom from early spring to fall
frost to keep the local bee/wasp population happy. I’m on the north edge of the
Detroit suburbs and the honey bees have been active in my yard before the snow
finished melting. The object of their desire is crocuses. Crocuses may not be
an answer in a large scale orchard, but are fairly inexpensive, have varieties
that bloom from very early to late spring and work well in an urban setting.
They do bring the bees to my lot early in the season, hopefully to hang around
during apple blossom. It was mentioned that a holistically managed orchard will
create the environment to keep the pollinators around, but what can we do to
help this along? What plants and nesting conditions have you used to attract
and keep the pollinators living year round in the orchard? Do you actually
spend any time or resources attracting pollinators? Is it time well spent
considering all the other things that need to get done?
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tassytwo 23 months ago
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I am reading this post with great interest. We kept bees for a number of years
but being in Australia it may not be of much help to you. I wonder what is
normal practice in America for keeping bees. Our bees are all kept naturally as
far as I am aware. Commercial growers of bees here simply move their bees,
under agreement with land holders, around to where there is food sufficient to
sustain the bees and produce necessary quantities of honey. There are not
additives to the hives at all - all being sustained by the natural vegetation
in the district. We had commercial growers bring their bees to our area at
various times of the year - mostly when the wattles, eucalypts etc were in
flower in our district. We grew lots of bee attracting plants in our place -
don't know if it is much use though to list the varieties as it may be very
different in America. We are currently planning to have bees again on our new
property but instead of the usual commercial hives we are planning this time to
use African hives which are shaped like a flat bottomed V shape with single
boards on the top which the underside gets painted with beeswax so that the
bees start forming their combs on that. This provides 25% less honey but heaps
more wax to make candles. The bees, we believe, are then working in a more
natural environment. I will let you know how it goes.
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Anthony Varriano 23 months ago
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The primary interest I had in deciding to keep bees was one of healing and
caring for them in a safe and sustainable way. When I heard of the practice of
carting tractor trailer loads of bees across the country to pollinate various
crops in season, was an eye opening moment. Why don't these growers have bees
as part of their operation? For the most part, commercial bees are treated like
slaves, being exploited for there natural impulse to collect pollen and nectar.
The stress that they undergo every several weeks as they follow the latest crop
in bloom would make any being's immune system start to break down and be
susceptible to illness; which is a huge part of their current decline. Couple
that with the fact that they are forced to feed on the same pollen/nectar for
weeks at a time, which in turn is fed to their germinating brood (would you
feed a mother and child bread and water for weeks on end?). This is often
amidst crowded orchard conditions (growers frequently will pay for extra hives
in their orchards to in effect saturate the landscape and make sure that their
almonds or whatever are fully pollinated). It's amazing that there aren't more
colony losses. Added to this is the fact that they are then force fed high
fructose corn syrup when they get to their destination as the are starving from
their long distance trip. Then the honey they made is not from natural sources
but an inferior precursor. So then we, if we are not properly informed, think
we are eating this "natural" substance but in effect an inferior one composed
of these sugary remnants and by products. And a large percentage of honey these
days comes from China, and I don't have to elaborate on the quality control
nightmares that are inherent in that dynamic. Needless to say, it all points
back to caring for the bees humanely, leaving them enough honey for them to
survive and graciously extracting any extra that they have collected for our
benefit and enjoyment. There are health benefits to eating local pollen and
honey. I have one hive in an urban setting and they have thrived, collecting
upwards of 125 lbs of honey, much of it which they needed to survive the
winter. Now they are out and about beginning there life cycle again. This may
sound crazy, but they appear "happy". I don't even know what to do with all of
the honey...lots of gifts I presume this year. Planting bee friendly plants not
only beautifies your landscape but also invites other beneficials to set up
their home and propagate. A nice list of bee friendly plants can be found at
http://www.thedailygreen.com/going-green/tips/2790. With
just the planting of several of these last season, I noticed a wide range of
natural pollinators visiting my garden throughout the growing season. They will
be a definite part of my future orchard landscape. Another useful resource on
pollination is www.pollinator.org.
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John Bemis 23 months ago
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I used to keep bees. Long ago Kirk Webster (now of Champlain Valley Bees and
Queens) took over my hives and moved them with him when he moved to Vermont. He
has a wonderful operation there now in Bridgeport and is a superb source of the
very best bee stock for the North. He is also a writer on methods of natural
bee care. I have copies of many of his articles, but I believe you can get them
off the Web since he is a frequent speaker at bee conferences. We now have a
commercial bee keeper here at Hutchins Farm. His methods are not organic but at
least close. His overwintering average these last few years is about 80 percent
and his colonies have looked very healthy so far this Spring. We have plenty of
wild bees of various sources that I see throughout the orchard blocks in bloom.
Without question, the best observed pollinating goes on in the late afternoon
with honeybees. Bumblebees are good in cooler weather but their numbers are not
enough. Mason bees are over the top, but tend to congregate on small groupings
of trees (working 3 or 4). I believe totally that dandelions are really helpful
since they multiply ahead of apple bloom helping pollen supplies for raising
brood. They close up by 3 in the afternoon, allowing for the bees to switch to
apples as the winds diminish later in the day. Our various apple blocks are
spread about 60 acres of vegetables intermixed with maybe eight acres of
hardwood trees. The beekeeper has about 50-75 colonies in one location --
pretty much in the middle and away from any spraying of our organic materials.
We pay him 500 dollars a year and purchase a lot of his honey to sell . But
Kirk's is better. We have one block with no resident managed bees a mile away
where polination in most years and reasonable weather is fine.
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Anthony Varriano 23 months ago
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I agree the dandelions are a great source of pollen and minor source of nectar
acting as a tonic to help the bees cleanse their Gi tract from the long winter
of holding in their waste products; as you may know they do not poop in the
hive. They need a warmish day (50's) to go on cleansing flights and relieve
themselves. So keeping dandelions in the orchard to help draw up deep minerals
as well as nourish the bees works on many levels in the holistic stewardship of
your land.
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