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Victor and Unholt: An HQ monstrous creature: 1/1/6/4/4/3/4/10/4+, with a Techmarine handler & big assault gun. I have to check back but I guess it is right. And don't worry about the low BS, it can use the BS of Victor. Angels Sanguine Chapter Master Toledo: Rage and Fleet instead of Combat Tactics and Blood Rage. Actually that is the special rule of Seth. Toledo makes the whole army replace red fury (I guess thats what he means by Blood Rage) and combat tactics with stubborn. Sanguinary High Priest HQ: unit has: W:2 and grants a Rage (Blood Rage??) radius. Quite the opposite. Blood Angels in 12" may ignore Red Fury. Captain Erasmus Tycho: 3+ Dodge save, Pride special rule and no Blood Rage. It is 3+ armour save and 4+ invulnerable save. He and his squad are not subject to red fury. Guards of the Tower of Amareo: Jump Troops with high I, WS,BS and "Exalted Blades"( Frost axe rules) They are called Exalted. However in their entry you can read that they are the guards of the tower and it is their task to keep the horrors inside at bay. The Eviscerator is a two handed powerfist. May reroll to hit against enemies with T>5. Red Fury: Unit must take a leadership test if enemy is in 12" or they are subject to rage USR. Exalted, Baal Initiates and Chaplains are immune. QUOTE (Linksys @ Jan 15 2010, 01:17 PM) * I don't know what the designers intention was. But the whole army has furious charge or hyper furious charge. Hyper Furious Charge being defined as what the DC have, if they charge and win the combat they keep Furious Charge for the next round of combat. Yes. Speed is one of the main themes of the codex. A little bit of background: another main theme of the codex is that the curse is becoming stronger. In reaction to this there is a kind of philosophical schism inside the chapter - nothing like civil war but an ongoing dispute. The Sanguinians try to adhere to the principle of their primarch and take the curse as a test of character. They try to overcome the affects and stay as civil as possible. Dante is the leader of this faction and it is the more influential. The Faustians however try to use the curse. They believe it was a gift of their dying Primarch to his children, that he gave them his strength. But it was wasted for millenia by overly hesitant chapter masters. The Faustians were a minor group and only prominent inside the Flesh Tearer Chapter. The ascend of the Lord of Death however sparked a fast growth of this group. Mephiston was the living proof that the black rage was not a curse but a only locked door on the way to the full potential of the Blood Angels. Sanguinary Priest Faustus is the most influential member. He is the lord of the tower of Amareo and has studied the black rage for centuries. The successor chapter have similiar groups. The only exceptions are the Flesh Tearers and Angels Sanguine. The former are all Faustians, the latter all Sanguinians. just 1 question is are old special chaplain in the new codex? Yes, he is there, but the rules are not very impressive. He must join the Death Company and has only one special rule over a normal Chaplain. His Company won't lose Furious charge under any circumstances. So is is technically a S4(5), I4(5) unit. His mask gives him the psionic power Hypnotizing Gaze without test. But his background is interesting. He is a famous Faustian and rival of Dante. Exalted and Honour Guard look very elegant. They dont have broadswords but rapiers. But there are also some heavier wepaons like chainaxes. The Baal Initiates are a stark contrast. They look very savage. I haven't seen anything especially vampiristic. But the overall feeling is very Victorian, the same as in many vampire novels like Dracula. Mephiston (the old model btw.) is the only model that is clearly a vampire. On the other hand there are lots of special rule names with blood and thirst in it. According to the color pages the Honour Guard has lots of options, special weapons, banners, relics, stormshields, ... Exalted are all equiped with the same wargear: wristmounted stormbolter, rapier, jump packs with wings. Rulewise, the Honour Guard can attack after deepstriking, WS 5, A2. Exalted have hit & run, only WS4 and powerweapons with +1 strength. They have also mastered the red fury and therefore don't have this rule. no corbulo. maybe I miss an old one, but I am sure everyone except corbulo is there. New: Faustus (Jimbo1701 - head sanguinary priest) Victor (Jimbo1701 - MoTf/techmarine) Seth (Jimbo1701 - flesh tearers CM) Toledo (Jimbo1701 - angels sanguine CM) Lorenzo (Jimbo1701 - SH termie sarge) Absolutus (?) oh another question, is that Faustus guy gunna be a character? and if so what will his abilities look like? He is a Sanguinary Priest, but he is not dedicated to find a cure for the curse. He does his research in the tower of Amareo and nobody knows what he does in there. He has no anti-red thirst rule like the other Priests. He can gives his unit some boni. No jump pack. and ALSO will VAS still be in the army or are Exalted replacing them (or are Exalted replacing honour guard for that matter) There are no veterans but the Honour Guard has a veteran statline. And there are almost two pages with pictures just for them. It seems that they have lots of options like stormshields, perdition pistols, banners, special weapons, chalices, chainaxes Victor and Unholt - Sounds like a 0-1 Thunderfire equivalent and I've heard a further rumour that this is an HQ choice (!). HQ just doesn't add up as it would take away a more valuable option from your HQ choices. I would guess this would be a Heavy ugrade character much like Marbo as an Elite. Dunno where they are in the FOC Tyco - Still in and revamped (?). Would be happy to keep him on the basis that he's now useful. Thankfully no DC/Dread nonsense. You can chose one special rule: Pride, Hatred or Rage. No Dreadnougt, but you can name your Deathcompany-Dread Tycho if you want. Tantalus Lander - This has got me really sitting on the fence. I really like the sound of something like this but then I can't help asking what happens to our normal LR for example. Not knowing troop capacity and whether Termies can be delivered is the crux but even so, another assault delivery vehicle seems a bit much. Equally, why BA and Successor specific? From a GW sales standpoint, can they hope to turn a profit on a unit that covers say 4-5 very specific Chapters and none of them Codex, even with both existing BA players who will upgrade their armies and new players who will start from scratch? Would this be another Heavy choice or a Dedi-Trans? If Dedicated is that the death of Rhinos for BAs - again points will decide viability in numbers. They are used by all chapters, but Blood Angels are known to use them more often. An imperial scribe made a mistake and classified the Tantalus as Thunderhawk during Vandires rule (whoever this is ^^) and this mistake spread throughout all imperial institutions. So in many cases, where there is a report of a Thunderhawk planetfall, the Space Marines actually used Tarantulas. hinos - Severe Damage Table... is that for us presumably or for the targets we end up ramming? They are fast, but if they more than 12" they count as open topped and if they are immobilized they are destroyed and scatter 3D6". DC - Losing Rending. I've always liked the way DC can take down a lot of top end stuff (Tyrants, LRs, Squiggoths even) and losing Rending feels like that removes that option. I personally think it takes away some of their character if true. There are pictures of power axe and power fist wielding Death company. Just some of my queries and questions really, and I'm surprised at how much "information" is abundant not even a week after the official release notice. It seems far too much to me at this early stage, which reinforces the argument that a lot of it is blue sky wish-listing. I would however like to know what's happening with Lemartes and Chaplains for one. This time, something went terrible wrong with GWs information policy. I don't believe it was a voluntary move to publish parts of the codex. I. Can you give us any details on the Lord of Death? Is he Terminator Armored, normal Armored? Are there two versions? What's his statline like? Power Armour and old mini. Maybe there is a new one, but the miniature in the color part is the old one. II. What can you tell us about Blood Angels Psychic Powers? I like to play a list with an active Librarian, so any information you could provide would be much appreciated. 6 powers: Quickening, Might of Heroes, Darkness, Blood Stasis, Sanguinius Grace, Transfixing Gaze Interesting to see that they haven't stayed with Swallow's name for the Angels Sanguine Chapter Master, and I'm rather excited about him... any more details would be wonderful. powerarmour, sword, stormshield, no jump pack fearless, his army has stubborn and no red fury, Chaptermasters don't have orbital bombardment btw! Exalted in his army may reroll hit & run roll. so is the Tantalus Lander definitely there? and what rules do you know about fast, skimmer, 13/11/10, no scout!, deep strike, transport, Jump Troops may assault after disembarking, dangerous terrain test Linksys, the information you've provided is great. If there's more fluff you can pump out to us that'd be great, regarding the Chapter as a whole or about each Chapter Master. There are only three Chapter Masters: Toledo, Seth and Dante. Seth and Dante are relly straight forward. Dante is a Sanguinian, Seth a Faustian. Toledo is also a Sanguinian, a very strict, unforgiving and solemn man. Tries to push his chapter to adhere the Codex Astartes. Is tasked with maintaining the Exalted and therefore most of them are from his chapter. The exalted seem interesting models, but I'd have to re-model them with beakies to fit them in my army, that's possibly gonna get costly. Only the Honour Guard and no further Veteran options ? I surely hope that the RAS get to wield melta guns or I'm hot out of luck with all my models and will end up not being able to field half my mini's. There is a picture of an Honour Guard with melter and one with flamer. New fluff: There are two scouts units. Blood Angel Scouts and Scout Initiates. The Initiates are vanilla scouts (with bolters in the art, with sniper and shotgun in the photos). They have a special rule wich makes them scoring. The BA Scouts are like the old metal scouts, really disorganized, with injectors and so on. They look really mean. Fleet of foot for them. The story is, that the Blood Angel Scouts are pretty fresh recruits from the dystopian world Baal. The blood rituals exaggerate their natural savage behaviour even further. Some are even driven into a blood frenzy. Few survive this initiation procedure and are tasked with more sophisticated missions than messing up the enemy lines in a big brawl. There is no Cloak in the wargear or Scout section! Seems odd that two of the new characters have no jump packs. So this means we'll still have to start creating generic HQ options if we want them jumping around with the rest of our armies ? Maybe there is an option in the armylist. But even without there are enough Jump Troops for everyone in the codex. 4 Jump Pack entries: Honour Guard Death Company Exalted Assault Squad And for the Dreadnougt entries even more options: Moriar (venerable Death Company dread) Absolutus (double saw masscre, but no model) Venerable Dreadnougt (FW one in the color section) Dreadnougt (Death Company special rule: ignores shaken and stunned results) Furioso A quick thought regarding linksys info. Are the honour guard WS5, as if so that makes them better stats than your standard marine veteran. On those samelines, I gather the exhalted are composed of those who don't succumb to the black rage, and that honour guard are still the elite guard of the special characters? If so, how can BAs have no VAS, as they don't have sternguard and thus could only field terminators like the deathwing? Oh, and out of interest, anyone know who the last IC on the list was? The first company consists of veterans like in any other chapter. If the veterans form a squad with Tactical Dreadnought armour, they are called Terminators. If they form a squad with power armour they are called Honour Guard. Some Captains are granted a permanent cadre of veterans to fight alongside their company. What's with a lot of people not taking Death Company? Is there some sort of drawback or...? Not to my knowledge. 1 does it say anything about the type of drop pods we use 2 any info on the deep striking stuff 1. the usual droppod 2. lots of deep striking stuff ^^ 4 jump pack units, units with the option of a Tantalus, units with the option of a droppod Honour Guard can charge into combat after deepstrike, Assault squads, Exalted and Death Company can do the same if they can get a Tantalus. However I have found nothing so far that improves reserve rolls or deepstriking. No beacon, only teleport homer for Initiates. how many models does the Tantalus lander carry? if it can carry 10 i am gunna get SO many of these bad boys hahaha edit: and im assuming jump pack troops can assault the turn the Tantalus lands right? also whats the weapon load out like on it? It can carry 16, 8, 5 or 1, depending on the unit type. tongue.gif Judging by the pictures it has two assault cannons and two flamer. Has anyone heard if assault marine can still take a rhino instead of JPs. Or if they can take flamers. I don't know. Haven't seen any Assault Marine without packs or with flamer except in the Honour Guard. Also, is there any mention of the Lamenters in what you have? Sorry, they are not one of the five treated chapters. Is the Honor Guard limited to 5 models? don't know, but their background is ten man squads. Or maybe it works differently with other vehicles? Does Overcharged Engines even exist? yes, but only rhinos have this rule. It is not a vehicle upgrade, but replaces the repair special rule of the vanilla rhino Speaking of vehicle upgrades. There is nothing new at all. OK, brace yourselves for the last bit of info we may be getting for a while, but it's a good one: page -26 background 27 combat squads, red fury, furious charge, they shall know no fear 28 Commander 29 Sanguinary Priest 30 Chaplain 31 Librarian 32 Tactical Squad 33 Assault Squad 34 Devastator Squad 35 Death Company 36 Terminator Squad 37 Honour Guard 38 Dreadnought 39 Furioso Dreadnought 40 Scouts 41 Initiate Scouts 42 Bikes 43 Scoutbikes 44 Land Speeder 45 Exalted 46 Techmarine/Razorback 47 Rhino 48 Drop Pod 49 Tantalus 50 Predator 51 Baal Predator 52 Whirlwind/Vindicator 53 Land Raider 54 Commander Cervan Dante, Chaptermaster of the Blood Angels 55 Mikhael Faustus, Sanguinor of the Blood Angels, Exemplar of the Host 56-57 Mephiston, Chief Librarian of the Blood Angels, Lord of Death 58 Erasmus Tycho, Captain of the 3. Company of the Blood Angels 59 Reo Lemartes, Chaplain of the Blood Angels, Guardian of the Lost 60 Victor Nergal, Master of the Forge of the Blood Angels 61 Moriar the Chosen, Death Company Dreadnought of the Blood Angels 62 Hieri Lorenzo, Sergeant of the First Company of the Blood Angels 63 Absolutus, Dreadnought of the Flesh Tearers, Furioso Supremo 64 Gabriel Seth, Chaptermaster of the Flesh Tearers 65 Toledo Astorath, Chaptermaster of the Angels Sanguine 66-72 wargear 73 psychic powers Okay, sets my concerns about the SC name discrepencies aside if it's all to be believed. One thing I find a little odd is the fact all the land raiders only get a page, but I guess they only need weapon entries really; all the background is covered in C:SM and in C:SW the rhino/razorback entry was condensed to just one page. Other thing is the placement of the psychic powers after the wargear section - in both C:SM and C:SW the psychic powers were listed in the bestiary at the same time as the librarian/priest entries. Should also be noted that the following entries are probably joint: bikes/attack bikes dreadnought/venerable dreadnought furioso dreadnought/DC dreadnought Land speeder/storm All 3 land raiders Commander/chapter master